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Blink Health Rx Review

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Today, I paid $15 to have a prescription filled.  But if I hadn’t been careful, I could have paid $436.

I’ve previously written about the importance of price shopping when having a prescription filled or refilled. This is not like shopping around to save a couple of dollars when buying a gallon of milk. Prescription prices can vary by a huge amount. A pharmacy might have a reasonable price on one prescription, but another pharmacy will charge hundreds of dollars for the exact same prescription. They get away with this because the doctor conveniently offers to call in the prescription to your favorite pharmacy. If you take your doctor up on the offer, you might pay hundreds of dollars more than you need to. You need to get a paper prescription, shop around for price, and then have the prescription filled.

GoodRxLogoI’ve previously explained that the website GoodRx.com makes this process easy. You enter the name of the medication, and the site shows you the prices at various pharmacies. In most cases, you need to print a coupon or display it on your smartphone.

BlinkLogoSince I wrote that, another site sometimes provides a better price.  That site is Blink Health.  It often has the lowest price, so it’s worth checking.  Also, by following the links on this page, you will save $15 off your first order.

To check the price, you enter the prescription name on their website.  When the list of possible medications comes up, select the proper dosage and number of doses.

In most cases, you will see three options for price. The first is for home delivery, and this price is usually quite reasonable. The second is the “Blink Everyday Low Price.” The “Blink Everyday Low Price” is for major pharmacy chains such as Walmart and Safeway. If you need to buy from one of these pharmacies, GoodRX.com probably has a better price.

The third price is for the “Blink Smart Deal,” and this is usually the lowest price. It will display the name of an independent pharmacy in your area, but this pharmacy might not be convenient. You can click on the “change pharmacy” link, and you will see a list of most independent pharmacies in your area. Select that pharmacy, and that’s where you will pick up your prescription.

The Blink website is easy to use, and you place your order as you would with any other website. But there is one additional step. The Blink site is only to pay for the prescription. You also need to call or visit the pharmacy to place your order with the pharmacy. This represents a slight inconvenience, but you are more than compensated by the price savings. When the prescription is ready, you pick it up and give the pharmacy the receipt you printed from the Blink website.

The two-step process is slightly inconvenient, but in some cases, the price savings will be substantial. Often, GoodRx will have a better price or one that is about the same. But sometimes, the difference will be significant, so you want to try both.

At the top of this page is my receipt for a prescription I picked up today. My cost was $15.30. As you can see on the receipt, the copay is listed as zero.  This is because I paid in full online.  But the most shocking thing about this receipt is the “W/O INS 436.21“.  This means that if I had walked in off the street with my prescription, or had the doctor call it in, I would have paid $436.21.

In many cases, GoodRx would have given me a price that was almost as good.   In fact, in this case, one pharmacy listed on GoodRx has a cash price of $13.67, with no coupon required. Also, one membership pharmacy would charge $6, plus an annual membership fee. One other local pharmacy shows a price of $316, but $18.46 with coupon.

These prices are crazy, and this whole system makes no sense. Frankly, it’s obscene that my pharmacy would charge an unwitting customer $436, but charged me only $15 because I was willing to jump through some online hoops.  And it’s obscene that one pharmacy’s cash price is $14, but another one is $436 for the exact same product.  There’s no rhyme or reason, but you have to jump through the hoops every single time.  The last time I filled this prescription 90 days ago, Blink was the lowest price.  I stayed with them because the price was only slightly higher.  The next time, perhaps it will be a lot higher.  When that time comes, I’ll switch again.

If you purchase from Blink after using the links on this page, you will receive a $15 discount on your first order.  If the total price is less than $15, then the prescription will be free.  This site will also receive a credit.

This is one of a series of posts about our experiences with Samaritan Ministries, a health sharing ministry.   You can read my other posts about Samaritan at this link.  If you decide to join Samaritan Ministries, please mention my name, Richard Clem, as the person who referred you, as I will receive a credit for referring you.

 

 



Our Samaritan Ministries Experience

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As I’ve written previously, my family has not had health insurance for about four years.  Instead, we are members of Samaritan Ministries, a Christian “health sharing ministry”.  A health sharing ministry is not health insurance, but it performs a similar function.  Once a month, we are given the name of another member or members who have recently had a medical need.  Instead of sending in an insurance premium to an insurance company, we send our monthly share (currently $495 per month for families with children) directly to that member.

Carry Each Other’s Burdens

It’s based on Galatians 6:2: “Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.”  So in January, we might learn that a member in California had a heart attack, and we, along with other members, carry his burden by sending our $495 directly to him.  In February, we might learn that a couple in Texas recently had a baby.  So that month, we would send our share directly to that family.  We are also asked to pray for the person, and to include a personal note or card in addition to our check or online payment.  The money travels strictly from person to person, without passing through an intermediary.  (Once per year, we send our share directly to Samaritan, meaning that Samaritan’s administrative expenses are 1/12, or about 8%.  I suspect this is considerably lower than any insurance company.)  And as far as I can tell, there would be no way for a member to legally compel other members to pay.  It’s based upon Christian trust.  And since I’m a lawyer, I suppose I ought to be skeptical.  But I’ve learned that the system works, and that it works exceptionally well.

With Samaritan Ministries, we are responsible for minor medical bills.  If the total bill for a certain condition is under $300, then we simply explain to the doctor that we are cash customers.  In most cases, that means that we pay by check or credit card at the time of service.  Or, the provider will send us a bill and we simply pay.

For the past four years, all of our medical bills came in that category.  That’s a good thing, because it means that nobody in our family was sick enough to generate a medical bill of more than $300.  But the pessimist would look at the situation and point out that we weren’t getting anything out of our membership.

My First Medical “Need”

SamaritanLogoIn a sense, the pessimist would have been right.  Since nobody in our household had been sick enough, we weren’t getting our money’s worth.  Well, our “bad” luck recently ended, and I got very sick to the point where I was hospitalized twice.  In other words, I was now “lucky” enough to be able to get my money’s worth.

I had essentially never been to a doctor as an adult.  But that all changed late last year.  I finally went to see a doctor, and she quickly referred me to a specialist.  As the specialist put it, “you’re a lot sicker than you think,” and I was hospitalized the same day.

I’ve now nearly recovered, but only after being hospitalized twice and incurring tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills.  Since Samaritan Ministries is not insurance, I am uninsured, and I was personally responsible for these tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills.

I had faith that we had made a good decision in going with Samaritan Ministries.  We did our homework, and I was confident that my medical bill would get paid and that I would stay out of bankruptcy court.  But I still had some doubts.  As another reviewer of Samaritan Ministries recently put it, “the lawyer in me had some questions.”

Even before I reported to the hospital, I informed Samaritan that I would have a “need” (they’re careful to avoid insurance terminology, so it’s not called a “claim”) in excess of $300.  My memory of that whole time is a blur, and I honestly forget whether I made the notification by phone or online.  But they quickly contacted me (again, I don’t remember if it was by phone or e-mail, since I’ve been in contact with the “need advocate” both ways).  He answered any questions and sent me the correct form and instructions.   The form itself was quite simple, and I was to send this along with my medical bills.  He also prayed for me.

I was first hospitalized in early December.  One great advantage of Samaritan is the fact that there’s no “network” to worry about.  You can go to any hospital or doctor you please, anywhere in the world.   I was able to chose which hospital I wanted, and my wife strongly recommended HealthEast St. Joseph’s Hospital in St. Paul,   This was an excellent choice.  I hope you never have to go to the hospital, but if you do, then St. Joe’s is the one you want to go to.  The hospital has a strong history as a faith-based institution, having been founded by the Roman Catholic Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet in 1853.  Everyone I encountered there, whether they were doctors, nurses, or support staff, treated me with extreme compassion.  Even the cleaning people gave the impression that they were important parts of a healing ministry, which, of course, they were.  Even though the hospital is now part of a secular healthcare institution, it is clear that the faith-based roots are respected and continued.

When I showed up at the hospital, the lawyer in me was expecting that I would probably need to explain my “uninsured” status, and reassure someone that they would, indeed, get paid.  At the entrance, I was placed in a wheelchair, and I fully expected them to wheel me to the business office where I would have that conversation.  But I was wrong.  They instead wheeled me directly to my room, where the nurses began asking medical questions rather than billing questions.  It wasn’t until a couple of days later when someone from the business office showed up.  When I explained how Samaritan Ministries worked, she seemed quite satisfied, and put away the Medical Assistance application that she had brought with her.

Filing the “Need” with Samaritan

When I was discharged (the first time, since they sent me back a few weeks later), my wife stopped by the business office and asked for an itemized hospital bill.  It was for tens of thousands of dollars.  But since I was an “uninsured” patient, they immediately gave me a discount and subtracted about half!

I got home in mid-December, and a few days later, I mailed the bill to Samaritan, along with the other bills that I had received so far.  I did make a point to make sure it arrived before the end of the month, because Samaritan works on a monthly cycle.  I believe we wound up mailing them on Christmas Eve.  If it had been a few days later, I probably would have sent them Express Mail to make sure they arrived by the end of the month.  (It is possible to submit bills online, but I haven’t tried that process.  My thinking is that since most of my bills originate in paper form, it’s probably easier just to mail them, rather than needing to scan them first.)

When bills are submitted, they are reviewed.  This process seems to take about one to two weeks.  When approved, they are assigned to other members.  A bill that is submitted by the end of December will generally be shared starting on February 1.  So being a member does require a certain amount of organization and getting things sent in a timely fashion.  It is, however, not overly burdensome.  As new bills arrived, I placed them in a folder, and when I had gathered a few, I sent them to Samaritan.

Processing by Samaritan

Samaritan has a good online portal to track how needs are progressing.  At one point, the information displayed there made me a bit nervous, since that information is apparently delayed a few days from real time.  After Samaritan received my bills, the online portal initially said that they were undergoing review, and that the amount currently approved was zero.  This made perfect sense, since they hadn’t been reviewed yet.

A few days later, the status switched, and indicated that the review was complete.  And the amount approved was listed as . . . zero!

I correctly guessed that this was an online glitch of delayed reporting.  In fact, if I looked at another part of the online portal, the approved dollar amount was shown.  But I have to admit that the “zero” made the lawyer in me a bit nervous for a couple of days!

Lo and behold, a few days later, the full amount of my original bill was listed as being approved.  The bills from the initial hospitalization were submitted in late December and approved in early January.  And in late January, I was given a list of names of the other members who would be sending me their monthly shares starting on February 1.  I received the first share in late January.  Most of them arrived in the first two weeks of February, and they continued to trickle in until the end of the month.  A small sampling of some of them is shown in the illustration above.  Most members, it turns out, submit their shares via PayPal rather than by mailing a paper check.  The immediacy is nice, but there’s something to be said for getting a physical get well card in the mail.

As I mentioned, I was hospitalized a second time in early January.  This stay was actually longer and more expensive.  I submitted those bills in January, and the shares from other members started arriving on March 1.  More bills have trickled in, and some of them will be reimbursed in April or probably later.  But I’ll have the bulk of my medical bills paid in full by the end of March.

It takes a bit of organization, but even though I’m somewhat organizationally impaired, it isn’t particularly burdensome.  As money arrives, I immediately use it to pay my medical bills, most of which are now 31-60 days past due.  I usually make an online payment every day that I receive one or more PayPal payments from other members.  And when I receive paper checks, I deposit them, and then mail a payment for that amount within a day or two.  Even though my account is technically “past due” by a small amount of time, I haven’t received any collection calls.  I suspect the hospital (and all of the other providers) are getting paid much faster than they are for their insured patients.

100% Coverage!

The lawyer in me was worried that I might not get reimbursed for all of my medical bills.  But I needn’t have worried.  I’ll essentially be “covered” for 100% of my medical expenses.  There is that $300 “deductible,” that I would ordinarily need to pay myself.  But I don’t even have to pay that, because if I obtain a discount (which I did from most providers, including that discount of tens of thousands of dollars from the hospital), that is first subtracted from my “deductible.”  Since I’ve had discounts far in excess of $300, I don’t have to worry about this.

Really, my only out-of-pocket expense will be for prescriptions.  Samaritan pays them for up to 120 days, but I will have a couple that will extend past that point.  But thanks to the price comparison tools made available by Samaritan, these expenses will be very low.  (See my post on prescription drug prices to see some of the huge discounts available on otherwise expensive drugs.)

Better than Insurance

If I had insurance rather than Samaritan, it’s very unlikely that I would be as pleased as I am.  First of all, there would probably have been a very large deductible or co-pay.  When we were shopping for insurance four years ago, for example, the only policy that was even close to being affordable had a $10,000 deductible.  By contrast, my “deductible” for this illness started out at $300, but even that immediately vanished when I obtained a discount on a bill.

CrossClipartThe Power of Prayer

Also, the knowledge that other Samaritan members were praying for me is very significant.  Almost all of the shares that I received from other members contained a  personal note (either electronic or paper).  In addition to sending me money, they were sending me encouragement and prayer.  I could feel all of those prayers from dozens of people (including the staff at Samaritan who made a point to pray for me personally).  I truly feel like a member of a community, rather than simply a customer of an insurance company.

Another reviewer put it this way, which applies to me as well, even though her son had a medical need even more serious than mine:  “This kind of thing makes me go weak in the knees, begging God for healing, wisdom, guidance and provision. God has answered powerfully and part of that answer has been Samaritan Ministries.”    I’m not sure I know exactly what the Apostle Paul meant when he said to “pray continually” or “pray without ceasing” (1 Thes. 5:17), but this experience has given me more understanding. The knowledge that dozens of other members are actively praying for me is truly humbling, and I have no doubt that it contributed to my healing.

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CT Scan. FDA image.

No “Networks” to Worry About

Another critical factor is that with Samaritan, I don’t need to worry about whether my doctor or hospital is a part of some “plan” or “network.”  I can go to any doctor I want, anywhere in the world, with the assurance that the bill will be paid.  This allows me to chose a quality provider, such as the hospital I went to.  It also allows me to shop around for price.  For example, when I needed a CT scan, my cost was $392, because I was able to ask for the price and offer to pay at the time of service.  I suspect that for most people, the cost would have been much closer to $1000, and if they had a high deductible health plan, they would have been stuck with most of the cost, with no opportunity to shop around.  According to this website, a CT scan can cost as much as $5000.  For routine services such as this, it really pays to shop around, and Samaritan Ministries allows you to do exactly that.

My Recommendation

Samaritan Ministries is not for everyone.  For one thing, it is a Christian organization, and members must profess the Christian faith (in quite general terms, which would be acceptable to most Christians of almost any denomination.)  The governing law requires that health sharing ministry members share common religious or ethical beliefs.  Most such organizations are Christian, although United Refuah appears to be a similar organization for Jewish persons.   I hope there are similar organizations for those of other faiths.  Another consideration is that conditions that existed prior to becoming a member generally are not shareable.  (However, there are some exceptions.)

For most members of Christian churches, I believe that Samaritan Ministries is an excellent option.  In my experience, it is vastly superior to insurance.  And as I discussed previously, the cost is considerably less.  I’m quite confident that there is no medical insurance policy in America that would provide 100% coverage for a family for only $495 per month.  But that’s what Samaritan does.  It’s not insurance.  It’s what insurance was originally intended to be, and it’s what the early church was.  I strongly recommend that you consider it.

If you do decide to join Samaritan Ministries, I would appreciate if you would consider indicating on your application that I referred you. (Or, of course, if someone else recommended Samaritan, mention their name instead.) The application asks how you learned about Samaritan. If my information proved helpful, I would appreciate if you would include my name, Richard Clem. If you do, I will receive a credit.

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Celebrating Perversion of America’s First Freedom (or so I’m told)

logo-wide-mediumI’m in Des Moines this weekend at the  Freedom 2015 religious liberties conference.

I suspect that the vast majority of attendees are more conservative than I am. (My liberal friends will probably find it hard to believe that there’s anyone more conservative than I.) But despite that, I found everyone there to be respectful, and it’s been an interesting experience. According to a report at WHO-TV,  there’s another religious liberties conference taking place this weekend. And according to an organizer of the other event, the one I am at “embraces a perversion of America’s first freedom and encourages bias and prejudice, religious liberty is not and should never be discriminatory.”

I’m completely at a loss as to where this notion came from. I did not hear a single person encourage bias or prejudice, and I certainly didn’t hear anyone encourage anything discriminatory. Another speaker at the competing conference opined, “we don’t believe that religious liberty should be used as a weapon, against anyone.”

I didn’t agree with everything I heard today. But I honestly don’t understand the broad brush criticism.

I wasn’t able to arrive in time for the opening session. But the first speaker I heard, Michigan attorney and pastor Robert Whims, made the unremarkable plea that Christians have a duty to serve in Government.  He encouraged those in attendance to seek out opportunities to serve the civil government in appointed an elected capacities.

Mr. Whims is of the Reformed tradition, and pointed to the Westminster Confession to show that Christians have a duty not only to pray for an honor the civil magistrate, but to serve as such:

I. God, the supreme Lord and King of all the world, has ordained civil magistrates, to be, under Him, over the people, for His own glory, and the public good: and, to this end, has armed them with the power of the sword, for the defence and encouragement of them that are good, and for the punishment of evil doers.

II. It is lawful for Christians to accept and execute the office of a magistrate, when called thereunto: in the managing whereof, as they ought especially to maintain piety, justice, and peace, according to the wholesome laws of each commonwealth; so, for that end, they may lawfully, now under the New Testament, wage war, upon just and necessary occasion.

III. Civil magistrates may not assume to themselves the administration of the Word and sacraments; or the power of the keys of the kingdom of heaven; yet he has authority, and it is his duty, to take order that unity and peace be preserved in the Church, that the truth of God be kept pure and entire, that all blasphemies and heresies be suppressed, all corruptions and abuses in worship and discipline prevented or reformed, and all the ordainances of God duly settled, administrated, and observed. For the better effecting whereof, he has power to call synods, to be present at them and to provide that whatsoever is transacted in them be according to the mind of God.

IV. It is the duty of people to pray for magistrates, to honor their persons, to pay them tribute or other dues, to obey their lawful commands, and to be subject to their authority, for conscience’ sake. Infidelity, or difference in religion, does not make void the magistrates’ just and legal authority, nor free the people from their due obedience to them: from which ecclesiastical persons are not exempted, much less has the Pope any power and jurisdiction over them in their dominions, or over any of their people; and, least of all, to deprive them of their dominions, or lives, if he shall judge them to be heretics, or upon any other pretence whatsoever.

In short, this was hardly the stuff of “perversion” that “encourages bias and prejudice.”

Rafael Cruz

Rafael Cruz

The star of today’s events was Rafael Cruz, the father of presidential candidate Ted Cruz, who also appeared earlier in the day. The elder Cruz reminded us that the Bible tells us whom to vote for, a statement that would undoubtedly cause further consternation by the competing group. But sure enough, the Holy Writ says exactly what Cruz said it did. It tells us exactly who to vote for:

Select capable men from all the people–men [and women, Cruz added] who fear God, trustworthy men who hate dishonest gain–and appoint them as officials over thousands, hundreds, fifties and tens. Have them serve as judges for the people at all times, but have them bring every difficult case to you; the simple cases they can decide themselves. That will make your load lighter, because they will share it with you.

Exodus 18:21-22.

He pointed out that we’re given four qualifications for the people we should vote for:

  1. Capable
  2. Fear God
  3. Trustworthy
  4. Hate Dishonest Gain

(Mr. Cruz quoted from a different translation, which used the word “covetous” in connection with the fourth point, but one gets the idea.) He also pointed out that the second verse quoted above sounds a lot like federalism. I suppose this represents “bias and prejudice” only if one thinks that we should elect incapable people who are not trustworthy and who are in favor of dishonest gain. If that makes me biased, so be it.

Ted Cruz

Ted Cruz

According to Salon, Rafael Cruz “is even more frightening than Ted Cruz.” I guess if you’re an incapable untrustworthy covetous leader who doesn’t fear God, then you’re probably right.  But that doesn’t describe most of us, and I’m leaning toward voting for his son.

For more (and probably less biased) coverage of the conference, you can listen to Jan Mickelson’s live broadcast this morning on WHO Radio. (The broadcast includes a good interview regarding Samaritan Ministries, a topic about which I’ve written previously.)

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See Us at Freedom2015, Nov. 6-7, Des Moines

When we’re not busy posting pictures of old radios, one of our more serious concerns is the state of religious liberty in America.  Therefore, we will be attending Freedom2015, a religious liberty conference in Des Moines, Iowa, Friday November 6 and Saturday November 7.  The conference has a number of nationally recognized speakers scheduled, including presidential candidate Ted Cruz.  If you’re attending, please look for me.  I’ll probably be wearing my bright yellow OneTubeRadio.com shirt.

One of the conference sponsors is Samaritan Ministries, about which I’ve written in other posts.  If you plan on attending, please let me know so that I can say hello!

Samaritan Ministries: Our First Opportunity to Share

SamaritanLogoLet us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.

Galatians 6:9-10 (NIV)

We are relatively new members of Samaritan Ministries.  I’ve written about our experiences previously, and you can find those posts here.  They are an alternative to health insurance. Instead of sending premiums to an insurance company, we instead learn of medical needs experienced by other members and have an opportunity to help them with those needs. In exchange, we know that if we have a need, we have the assurance that other members will help us.

It’s similar to insurance, but it’s really more like how the early Church worked:

All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

Acts 2:44-47 (NIV)

We recently had our first opportunity to experience this through Samaritan. As new members of Samaritan, our first two monthly payments were made to the ministry’s office to cover administrative expenses. Each year, we will make one of our monthly payments to the home office. Making those payments seemed a little bit like insurance.

But this month, we got a taste of what the early Church experienced: Giving to someone who had need. This month, we were asked to make our payment to a woman in the Western U.S. who had broken her hip. We were given her name and a short description of her need. We were asked to send our payment directly to her, which she will use to pay her medical bills.  Presumably, many other members were also asked to send a payment to her this month.  And we were also asked to pray for her.

We didn’t gather with her in the temple courts, nor did we break bread in her home. We couldn’t, because we are far away. Other members of the Body of Christ filled those roles. What we were able to do was bear part of her financial burden, which would have been overwhelming for one person, or one family, or even one congregation.

We were also able to pray for her. I shared her first name with my own congregation, and we all prayed for her. We’re in another part of the country, and we’re probably a different denomination. But we were still able to do what Paul told the Galatians to do: “Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.” Gal. 6:2 (NIV).  And that is much easier to do with Samaritan than it was with insurance.

If you do decide to join Samaritan Ministries, I would appreciate if you would consider indicating on your application form that I referred you. (Or, of course, if someone else recommended Samaritan, mention their name instead.) There’s a box where you can check how you learned about Samaritan. If my information proved helpful, I would appreciate if you would include my name, Richard Clem. On the first page, you can check the box “Friend/referral (somebody told me)” and/or “Internet,” and write in my name. In the interest of full disclosure, if you do include my name as a referral, then I will receive a credit of $180.

Please also pray for the woman whose need we shared.  It wouldn’t be appropriate for me to give her name, but the giving of your prayers would be appreciated.

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Beating the Prescription Drug Racket: $6.60 vs. $120.00

GoodRx.com Screenshot Showing Low and High Prices

GoodRx.com Screenshot Showing Low and High Prices

Since January 1, my family no longer has health insurance. Instead of having traditional insurance, we decided to join Samaritan Ministries, a Christian health sharing ministry. I explained how Samaritan works in an earlier post.  I’m periodically blogging about our experiences which, so far, have been overwhelmingly positive.

Now that we no longer have insurance, we have to do some things differently. One of the things we do differently is purchasing prescriptions. When we had insurance, we took the prescription to the friendly neighborhood pharmacist along with our health insurance card. The pharmacist scanned the card, gave us a little bag containing the pills, and we happily paid a flat rate of $20 or so to cover our “co-pay.” Sometimes, the co-pay would be less than $20, because our insurer worked out a better deal on our behalf.

Occasionally, we would ask the pharmacist how much the prescription would have cost if we didn’t have insurance. We were invariably quoted a much higher price, and we were thus reassured that our insurance was really paying off.

Now that we don’t have insurance, we have to do things differently. We can’t just walk into the store and expect to get out the door for $20. But it turns out that we now pay much less, now that we’re unburdened by insurance, as long as we don’t play the game in the form dictated by the insurance companies.

When we had our first prescription to fill after joining, we called Samaritan Ministries for guidance. Our friendly local pharmacist had quoted us a price of about $40 for a one month supply, and we were hoping we could reduce this a bit. Since we no longer had insurance, we assumed that we would have to pay more than our previous $20, but we hoped we could stay close to that figure. It turns out we were wrong–we actually wound up paying much less.

Samaritan sent us a list of websites which we could use to shop around. The first one on the list was GoodRx.com, which is actually a price comparison website. It confirmed the cash price we had been quoted. This particular prescription had a cash price of $41 at CVS or $43 at Walgreens. If a patient walked into KMart, the cash price would have been $60. Target, on the other hand, charges $22 for the exact same prescription. So far, the site confirmed what I had suspected: There would be savings if we shopped around, and we probably wouldn’t have to pay much more than the $20 we would have paid with insurance.

But this wasn’t the end of the story. We could get the exact same prescription at the same pharmacies for a much lower price simply by printing a coupon. The biggest savings would be at KMart. Simply by printing an online coupon, KMart would knock its price down a staggering amount, from $60 to $8.55. Other pharmacies had similar savings. By printing a coupon, Walmart would fill the prescription for only $6.64. At Target, the price would be $10.97 by printing the online coupon. In other words, normal price competition (calling pharmacies and asking for their cash prices) resulted in almost as low a price as we had with insurance. And by printing the online coupons, we were much better off than we were with insurance. If we had needed the prescription right away, we would have printed the Walmart coupon, and wound up paying $6.64–about a third of what we would have paid with insurance.

But even that isn’t the end of the story! We didn’t need the prescription immediately, and we were able to wait a few days. Therefore, we were able to take advantage of an even better deal: HealthWarehouse.com, a mail order pharmacy in Kentucky, had the exact same prescription for only $3.60, which included free shipping.

We placed the order online, and we were instructed to have the doctor fax the prescription to HealthWarehouse.com. The doctor did so, and the pills arrived a few days later. We ordered a 60 day supply, and the total price was $6.60. If we had insurance, this would have been about $40, and we would have been made to feel lucky about paying that amount, since the “normal” price would have been $86. And if we had been uninsured and didn’t bother shopping around, we would have just paid the $86.  (And the hapless cash customer who walked into KMart would have paid $120!)

And if we really wanted to save even more money, we could also purchase this product from a Mexican pharmacy.  The Mexican price for the same product appears to be about 25 pesos, which works out to $1.67.  Since the price at HealthWarehouse.com is already so low, it’s probably not worth the added bother to save another $5.  But in some cases, it might be worthwhile to take advantage of this option, which would reduce the price to practically nothing.

(We also checked Canadian pharmacies.  In this particular case, we would have saved over the normal retail price by ordering online from Canada, but the  HealthWarehouse.com price was considerably lower than the Canadian pharmacies we checked.)

The prevalence of the Health Insurance Industrial Complex has largely eliminated price competition.  When we had insurance, we didn’t bother shopping for price, since we mistakenly assumed that our insurance company had already done that for us, by offering the “low” price of only $20 for a co-pay.  Many people don’t realize how huge the price differences are.  Even if you have health insurance, you will probably save money by not using your insurance card and instead shopping around as we did.

We paid $6.60, but we could have grudgingly paid $86 for the exact same prescription. And if we had insurance, we would have paid $40.  The fact that we are now using Samaritan rather than traditional health insurance has made us smarter consumers.

If you want to learn more about Samaritan Ministries, please read my earlier post explaining how they work.  As I explained in my other post, Samaritan does offer us a referral bonus.  Therefore, if you decide to join, please include my name, Richard Clem, as the person who referred you.

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The following Facebook post appeared today, and it’s the kind of testimonial that encouraged us to join Samaritan Ministries.  You can read about our experience with this alternative to Obamacare at my earlier post.

 

Samaritan Ministries: An Alternative to Obamacare

Joining the Ranks of the Uninsured

My wife was recently informed that as of January 1, she will no longer have health coverage through work. Ironically enough, she works for a hospital. We were instead encouraged to go to the MnSure website (Minnesota’s brand of Obamacare) to purchase coverage there.

What Obamacare Has To Offer

Healthcare.govLogoThe least expensive policy there has a $589.40 monthly premium for a UCare plan with a $10,000 deductible and $13,200 maximum out of pocket. While a handful of preventitive services would be covered at no cost, with the $10,000 deductible, it’s unlikely that we would ever make a claim. In other words, in addition to paying over $7000 per year in insurance premiums, we would still have to pay whatever medical bills we incurred throughout the year (unless, of course, we were “lucky” enough to have more than $10,000 in medical bills). In short, this is no different from a traditional major medical policy, other than the premiums being an order of magnitude higher.

The plan with the lowest deductible of $0, but with a maximum out of pocket of $12,000, from BlueCross BlueShield, had a monthly premium of $1183.81. Presumably, by paying over $14,000 in premiums in the course of a year, most bills would be covered, but there’s still the possibility of having to pay an additional $12,000 out of pocket.

Neither option is “affordable.” Therefore, as of January 1, my family will no longer have health insurance coverage. As a direct result of the so-called Affordable Care Act, my family can’t afford health insurance.

Exploring the Exemptions:  Becoming a Hardship Case

PowerMeterFortunately, there’s a silver lining, since this allowed us to explore other options. There are exemptions to the Affordable Care Act.  For example, you’re not liable for the penalty if you can come up with a disconnection notice from a utility company. This could be arranged with little difficulty, although it’s problematic for a couple of reasons. First of all, the exemption appears to be available only for the “month of the hardship” as well as the months before and after. So to take full advantage of this loophole, I would need to pay the electric bill in such a way as to receive a total of four disconnection notices over the course of a year.  This would entail a lot of careful planning, as well as hoping that the friendly electric utility would send the required disconnection notice on time.  If I accidentally paid the electric bill on time, we would be liable to the penalty for not having insurance.  And it seems unfair to the electric company to make them do this additional work in order to satisfy the requirements of the health insurance industry.

But most importantly, even though we might avoid the fine, we would still be without health coverage. So taking advantage of the hardship exemption doesn’t seem like a very good plan.

A Better Alternative: A Health Sharing Ministry

CrossClipartA more prudent exemption is for “a member of a recognized health care sharing ministry.” More background information about this option can be found at the following links:

Under the Affordable Care Act, for this exemption to apply, the organization must have been in existence since at least December 31, 1999, and the members must share common ethical or religious beliefs. Because of this requirement, it’s apparently impossible for a new health care sharing ministry to be formed. All of the existing ones appear to be Christian organizations.

Why This is Unfair to Other Faiths

StarOfDavidClipartFrankly, this is unfair to members of other faiths. It seems to me that persons of faiths other than Christianity ought to be able to participate in such an organization. Unfortunately, none exist.  The remedy, it seems to me, is to eliminate the December 31, 1999, requirement, so that members of other faiths can form such organizations if they desire to do so.  For that reason, I would strongly support a change in the law to remove this requirement. But as far as I know, the only ministries that were established as of the magic date of December 31, 1999, were Christian. Fortunately, we happen to be Christian, and were thus eligible to join any of the existing ministries.

The Three Eligible Ministries and How They Work

The only three eligible organizations appear to be:

Each of these organizations has a statement of faith expressed in general enough terms that a member of any Christian denomination should be able to subscribe in good conscience.

All of these organizations operate under the same general principles. First, they all go to great lengths to stress the fact that they do not offer insurance. And, indeed, they do not. Instead, they operate on the principle under which insurance was originally based: The members agree to assist the other members in time of need, both spiritually and materially. If someone gets sick, the other members are asked to pray for that person. And the other members are also asked to help them pay their medical bills.

Premiums are not collected up front, as in the case of insurance. Instead, when someone has a medical need, they submit it to the other members. And then the other members contribute money to meet that need, in addition to offering prayers and encouragement. As far as I can tell, the other members have no legal obligation to help with the need. Instead, the members of the ministry simply rely upon the other members, knowing that those other members will turn to them in their own time of need.

How Samaritan Works

SamaritanLogoAfter studying these organizations, we decided to join Samaritan Ministries, and our membership takes effect on January 1, the day after our insurance ends.  The different organizations work somewhat differently, but here is how Samaritan Ministries works:

If you’re sick, you simply go to the doctor and explain that you’ll be paying yourself, and you make payment arrangements, whether that is cash at the time of service, charging it to a credit card, or making payment arrangements. Because no insurance company will be involved in the process, it is up to the patient to shop around for a reasonable price. (Assistance in that regard is offered, however, if needed.)

For small medical bills (basically, under $300 per incident) that’s the end of it. In other words, if I have a cold and decide to go to the doctor, I’ll make an appointment at the doctor of my choice, see him or her, and pay the bill. Perhaps I’ll pay $50 for the visit. If I’m quoted a price that’s too high, then I’ll go elsewhere.

In other words, it’s similar to what would happen if I had the $589.40 per month plan. I go to the doctor and pay the full bill. The only difference is that if I have the $589.40 per month plan, I probably don’t have any opportunity to negotiate. Perhaps UCare negotiated a better deal, and I would only have to pay $40 if I showed my UCare card. If that’s the case, then I’m out $10 for not forking over my $589.40.

On the other hand, perhaps UCare didn’t negotiate a better price. Perhaps they negotiated a price of $60 for the visit. If that’s the case, then my $589.40 per month premium actually results in my paying $10 more at the time of service.  Either way, for small medical needs, I’m not getting much if any value from my $589.40 premium.

Of course, I would be better off if I had signed up for the $1183.81 per month plan from BlueCross. If I had that plan (assuming I showed up at the right clinic, of course), then I wouldn’t have to worry about paying $50 for my cold. But it seems to me that I’m probably not going to have enough colds in any given month to cover the $1183.81 premium. Even if I have one cold per month, I’m still out $1133.81.

If my bill for a particular episode is $300 or less, that’s how it works. I don’t submit any claims anywhere; I simply pay them. While paying $300 wouldn’t be pleasant, this will not bankrupt me. What would bankrupt me would be paying the $1183.81 in an effort to avoid paying the $300.

If my bill hits $300, this is where Samaritan Ministries will help me. So instead of a cold, let’s assume that I have a heart attack. I assume that the going price for treating a heart is more than $300.

Once again, I tell the doctor that I’m a self-pay customer and that he or she should send me a bill.  (Or, more likely, the people who rush me to the hospital share this information.)  When I get home, I receive the bill for $100,000, an amount that would bankrupt me. Since I’m busy recuperating from my heart attack, I call Samaritan and ask them to help me deal with it. At that point, they do two things. First of all, they help me negotiate the bill down if appropriate. Then, they send my name and address to one or more other members, and ask those members to pray for me and send me $99,700 ($100,000, minus my $300 responsibility, minus anything they negotiated off the bill). The maximum amount paid by any given member is $405 per month. So in this hypothetical, I’ll receive more than 246 individual checks, payable to me, with a grand total of $99,700. As far as I can tell, the minor annoyance of having to deposit all of those individual checks is about the only downside of this approach. And it seems to me that this minor annoyance is offset by the knowledge that these 246 people are also praying for my speedy recovery.

More likely, any use we make of this service will be for more modest amounts. For example, if we have a medical bill of $1000, and Samaritan is able to negotiate it down to $800, then we will get $700 from fellow members and be responsible for $100 ourselves. Had we signed up for the $1183.81 per month plan, we would not have had to pay this $100 (assuming, of course, that we showed up at the right clinic). If we had signed up for the $589.40 per month plan, then we would have to pay the full $1000 out of pocket.

In short, given almost any plausible scenario, we’re way ahead of the game by using Samaritan. While we didn’t explore them as deeply, it appears that we would have similar savings with one of the other two ministries.

In return for this, we agree to pay up to $405 per month to other members. Once per year, this money is instead sent to Samaritan’s administrative office, meaning that they take 1/12 (about 8%) to cover administrative expenses. I suspect that this is far below the administrative expenses of any insurance company. Other months, we’ll be given the name and address of one or more other members, and will be instructed to send our $405 directly to them, along with our prayers and encouragement. For the last two months, medical needs have apparently been lower than expected, so for the last two months, members have actually sent less than the normal $405 per month. Apparently, the monthly amount used to be $355 but recently increased to $405. But in the last two months, there was, in effect, a discount on what members had to pay, and they did not pay the full $405.

This basic plan covers medical needs of up to $250,000. For amounts in excess of that, there is an option to participate in another program. Members are asked to set aside another amount (about $400 per year) and share that amount in case another member experiences a catastrophic need in excess of the basic $250,000. We opted to participate in that program as well.

How Much It Costs

The basic membership in our case, for a family of three or more, is a commitment of $405 per month. Most months, we will expect to send that amount to other members (although some months, such as the last two, the actual amount will be less). For a single person, the monthly share is $180. For a couple, it is $360. For a single parent and child(ren), it is $250. Rates are slightly lower for young adults under 25 years of age.

In addition to these fees, there is a $200 initial membership fee, and a $15 annual fee for participation in the over $250,000 plan.

If we’re lucky, we’ll spend $405 per month, and never be reimbursed for any of our own medical needs. But if we do have a medical need, what Samaritan offers seems vastly superior to anything that MNSure has to offer. I will periodically update as to our experiences with Samaritan Ministries. All of the reviews I’ve read from other members have been positive. Even though it is not insurance, what Samaritan Ministries offers is more like what insurance was originally intended to be, before people realized that they could make a profit by selling it.

Asking a Favor of You

Finally, if you do decide to sign up for Samaritan Ministries, I would appreciate if you would indicate on your application form  that I referred you. There’s a box where you can check how you learned about Samaritan. If my information proved helpful, I would appreciate if you would include my name, Richard Clem. On the first page, you can check the box “Friend/referral (somebody told me)” and/or “Internet,” and write in my name. In the interest of full disclosure, if you do include my name as a referral, then I will receive a credit of $180.

And if one of the other ministries fits your needs better, then I encourage you to join them.  The other two could very well work out better for some people.  Do your homework and join the one that best meets your needs.  But if Samaritan is the one for you, then I would appreciate if you would list me as having referred you.

Before making a decision, I encourage you to carefully read Samaritan’s website, and ask them any questions you might have. If you have any questions for me, feel free to ask. Since our membership doesn’t take effect until January 1, we don’t yet have any personal experience. But I will update this page with the good and the bad. But for now, I see very little bad, and this does seem to be a good option for those who are truly concerned with health care being affordable.


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